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	<title>Comments on: Why Oprah turned her back on Chicago media</title>
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		<title>By: JoAnn Genette</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vocalo.org/feder/2009/11/why-oprah-turned-her-back-on-chicago-media/9333#comment-9349</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnn Genette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss &quot;Donahue&quot;. 
Anyway, I understand Oprah&#039;s show impacts many lives. It just never impacted mine. 
I stopped watching years ago. As Feder said, &quot;Her public appearances in Chicago...became rare.&quot; She lived in a bubble. 
She rarely does anything local and never talks to the audience. She could do the show in Japan and it would be the same.

As for quitting? Barbra Walters said the same thing years ago. I still see her on my TV all the time. Watching Oprah cry over &quot;the end&quot; was a bit nauseating. Millions of people losing their jobs (unlike Oprah losing her job by choice). She has a couple of years to get used to &quot;the end&quot; while many Americans stand in unemployment lines worried about their future. I can&#039;t feel bad for Oprah. Once again, she has shown she&#039;s completely out of touch with the common man/woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss &#8220;Donahue&#8221;.<br />
Anyway, I understand Oprah&#8217;s show impacts many lives. It just never impacted mine.<br />
I stopped watching years ago. As Feder said, &#8220;Her public appearances in Chicago&#8230;became rare.&#8221; She lived in a bubble.<br />
She rarely does anything local and never talks to the audience. She could do the show in Japan and it would be the same.</p>
<p>As for quitting? Barbra Walters said the same thing years ago. I still see her on my TV all the time. Watching Oprah cry over &#8220;the end&#8221; was a bit nauseating. Millions of people losing their jobs (unlike Oprah losing her job by choice). She has a couple of years to get used to &#8220;the end&#8221; while many Americans stand in unemployment lines worried about their future. I can&#8217;t feel bad for Oprah. Once again, she has shown she&#8217;s completely out of touch with the common man/woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael N.J. Wright</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vocalo.org/feder/2009/11/why-oprah-turned-her-back-on-chicago-media/9333#comment-9241</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael N.J. Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb. But expected. Chicago is so immature when it comes to it&#039;s creative entrepreneurs it&#039;s a wonder anyone would produce here. 

News Flash! Entertainment is a competition. Chicago has had a litany of winners over the decades, many of them mentioned here. But Chicago loses to New York and Los Angeles because we embrace our &quot;Second City&quot; psychosis. Simply showing up to execute a &#039;job&#039; in media is not going to cut it. You must sear your presence into the imagination. Audiences are sophisticated and inundated. Go out and capture them. 

I laughed until I cried when Oprah was criticized as &quot;Elitist&quot; to open her season on Michigan Avenue. Duh! Yeah! That&#039;s the point. 

The provincialism is embarrassing. 

Do you think for a minute a Representative of Los Angeles County would utter the same words about Steven Speilberg if he wanted to tumble animatronic dinosaurs down Wilshire? 
 
Stop. If your mind is forming around a scenario that leans to the affirmative; I bet you dollars to donuts you haven&#039;t got that Oprah interview either. 

If Oprah won&#039;t talk to local press it&#039;s the fault of the local press. Try keeping up. Try investigating the world with a world perspective. Try getting after it with the vigor and foresight of the visionaries you cover. Try being proud and agressive and defensive of your city. 

Perhaps then you could hold a conversation with an Oprah, or Hefner, or Donahue et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb. But expected. Chicago is so immature when it comes to it&#8217;s creative entrepreneurs it&#8217;s a wonder anyone would produce here. </p>
<p>News Flash! Entertainment is a competition. Chicago has had a litany of winners over the decades, many of them mentioned here. But Chicago loses to New York and Los Angeles because we embrace our &#8220;Second City&#8221; psychosis. Simply showing up to execute a &#8216;job&#8217; in media is not going to cut it. You must sear your presence into the imagination. Audiences are sophisticated and inundated. Go out and capture them. </p>
<p>I laughed until I cried when Oprah was criticized as &#8220;Elitist&#8221; to open her season on Michigan Avenue. Duh! Yeah! That&#8217;s the point. </p>
<p>The provincialism is embarrassing. </p>
<p>Do you think for a minute a Representative of Los Angeles County would utter the same words about Steven Speilberg if he wanted to tumble animatronic dinosaurs down Wilshire? </p>
<p>Stop. If your mind is forming around a scenario that leans to the affirmative; I bet you dollars to donuts you haven&#8217;t got that Oprah interview either. </p>
<p>If Oprah won&#8217;t talk to local press it&#8217;s the fault of the local press. Try keeping up. Try investigating the world with a world perspective. Try getting after it with the vigor and foresight of the visionaries you cover. Try being proud and agressive and defensive of your city. </p>
<p>Perhaps then you could hold a conversation with an Oprah, or Hefner, or Donahue et al.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Thomas, if you only had a Q score as high as Walter and Bill. Viewers DGAS (don&#039;t give a s***) where you went to school and what you learned in school. It has no relevance for a viewer. 

Charlie Thomas is one of those media types who think they know more and are better than others. 

Thank God there was Walter and Bill as a team. They were worth watching every night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Thomas, if you only had a Q score as high as Walter and Bill. Viewers DGAS (don&#8217;t give a s***) where you went to school and what you learned in school. It has no relevance for a viewer. </p>
<p>Charlie Thomas is one of those media types who think they know more and are better than others. </p>
<p>Thank God there was Walter and Bill as a team. They were worth watching every night.</p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vocalo.org/feder/2009/11/why-oprah-turned-her-back-on-chicago-media/9333#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off - Kurtis was not that good, even in his &quot;prime&quot;.  The man had all the depth of a game show host.  His over-use of dramatic pauses and furrowed brows was his weak attempt to be &quot;serious&quot;.  The recent Channel 2 stunt to bring him back with Walter Jacobsen was a sign of desperation on Channel 2&#039;s part.  The fact is - there is little difference in content between 2, 5 and 7 at the 10:00 PM hour.  As superficial as it sounds, the personalities matter.  Rob Johnson is a decent guy, buy Ann State is neither a plus nor a minus.  

Two things seem to distinguish Ch 7 from the rest.  Chuck Goudie&#039;s pieces do occasionally delve serious subjects in a welcome longer format, such as the recent arrest of 2 Chicago men who might be linked to terrorist attacks in India.  But he also tends to do too many Chicago Outfit stories.  And Steve Dolinski is very knowledgeable in his Hunger Hound reports.  It is not just about what new restaurant opened, but identifying trends in the dining business and showcasing local businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off &#8211; Kurtis was not that good, even in his &#8220;prime&#8221;.  The man had all the depth of a game show host.  His over-use of dramatic pauses and furrowed brows was his weak attempt to be &#8220;serious&#8221;.  The recent Channel 2 stunt to bring him back with Walter Jacobsen was a sign of desperation on Channel 2&#8217;s part.  The fact is &#8211; there is little difference in content between 2, 5 and 7 at the 10:00 PM hour.  As superficial as it sounds, the personalities matter.  Rob Johnson is a decent guy, buy Ann State is neither a plus nor a minus.  </p>
<p>Two things seem to distinguish Ch 7 from the rest.  Chuck Goudie&#8217;s pieces do occasionally delve serious subjects in a welcome longer format, such as the recent arrest of 2 Chicago men who might be linked to terrorist attacks in India.  But he also tends to do too many Chicago Outfit stories.  And Steve Dolinski is very knowledgeable in his Hunger Hound reports.  It is not just about what new restaurant opened, but identifying trends in the dining business and showcasing local businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin J. Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vocalo.org/feder/2009/11/why-oprah-turned-her-back-on-chicago-media/9333#comment-8919</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin J. Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also &quot;uncomfortable&quot; with the resurrection of former news anchor icons.  Bill Kurtis moved away from the confines of broadcast journalism (ethics, rules, practices, etc.) into the lucrative universe of actor-pitchman-quasi reporter.  And now we&#039;re supposed to suspend all of that current image and believe that he has reinstated his journalistic chops?  Not so fast Channel 2 News.  There is such a thing as journalistic integrity. And now a former newsman-turned smarmy pitchman expects us to believe that past once-earned integrity still applies to his recent news broadcast appearance.  It&#039;s not that easy, people.  A professional broadcast journalist spends years building street-cred and a reputation based on solid, accurate past performance using the journalism principles learned way back in those college classes.  The trust, believability and gravitas earned in those hard-working years does not transfer once the journalism career is abandoned in favor of lighter fare.  In short, Bill Kurtis, and, to some extent, Walter Jacobson, must re-earn our trust if they are to be taken seriously as &quot;newsmen&quot; again.  I don&#039;t for a moment expect Kurtis to walk away from what has become a very good living for him as a commercial spokesman to be a news anchor in Chicago.  But should he ever choose to do so, we all need to know he&#039;s serious about it and that we&#039;ll not see him in another TV commercial. News is all about who, what, when, where, why, and how. Mixed messages are never easy to digest and lack sincerity. Real news demands sincerity, and so do Chicago news viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221; with the resurrection of former news anchor icons.  Bill Kurtis moved away from the confines of broadcast journalism (ethics, rules, practices, etc.) into the lucrative universe of actor-pitchman-quasi reporter.  And now we&#8217;re supposed to suspend all of that current image and believe that he has reinstated his journalistic chops?  Not so fast Channel 2 News.  There is such a thing as journalistic integrity. And now a former newsman-turned smarmy pitchman expects us to believe that past once-earned integrity still applies to his recent news broadcast appearance.  It&#8217;s not that easy, people.  A professional broadcast journalist spends years building street-cred and a reputation based on solid, accurate past performance using the journalism principles learned way back in those college classes.  The trust, believability and gravitas earned in those hard-working years does not transfer once the journalism career is abandoned in favor of lighter fare.  In short, Bill Kurtis, and, to some extent, Walter Jacobson, must re-earn our trust if they are to be taken seriously as &#8220;newsmen&#8221; again.  I don&#8217;t for a moment expect Kurtis to walk away from what has become a very good living for him as a commercial spokesman to be a news anchor in Chicago.  But should he ever choose to do so, we all need to know he&#8217;s serious about it and that we&#8217;ll not see him in another TV commercial. News is all about who, what, when, where, why, and how. Mixed messages are never easy to digest and lack sincerity. Real news demands sincerity, and so do Chicago news viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mueller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vocalo.org/feder/2009/11/why-oprah-turned-her-back-on-chicago-media/9333#comment-8916</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would remind Charles Thomas of several points.  First, if he listens regularly to WBBM-AM....what will he hear?  Assorted news reporters reading commercial copy for products/services advertised on the station.  Nobody complains about Len Walter or Felicia Middlebrooks doing the occasional spot.  Picking up a little pocket change on the side.  

Second, his own nescasts at WLS are hardly pure as the driven snow.  Whenever ABC/Disney has network product to push, it invariably shows up as &quot;news&quot; in their afternoon block between 4 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.  Nobody seems to care.  Nobody comments.  I&#039;d suggest Charles is being a tad disingenuous in his critique of Bill and Walter.  Nobody takes Charles to rask over his oh-so-cozy relationship with Roland Burris.  He always gets The Big Friendly Hello from Senator Burris, while Mike Flannery, by contrast is rudely addressed as &quot;Flannery!&quot;  As in &quot;Don&#039;t go there, Flannery!  Don&#039;t go there, Flannery!&quot;  I&#039;m still asking myself why Mike Flannery didn&#039;t stop Burris cold and say, &quot;That&#039;s MISTER Flannery to you, Senator.&quot;

Where was Chales Thomas that day to speak up for his colleague Mike Flannery?

I guess he picks and chooses what to be outraged about.  Two little old men reading 20 minutes of Friday night news is so much more important.  

Yeah.  Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would remind Charles Thomas of several points.  First, if he listens regularly to WBBM-AM&#8230;.what will he hear?  Assorted news reporters reading commercial copy for products/services advertised on the station.  Nobody complains about Len Walter or Felicia Middlebrooks doing the occasional spot.  Picking up a little pocket change on the side.  </p>
<p>Second, his own nescasts at WLS are hardly pure as the driven snow.  Whenever ABC/Disney has network product to push, it invariably shows up as &#8220;news&#8221; in their afternoon block between 4 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.  Nobody seems to care.  Nobody comments.  I&#8217;d suggest Charles is being a tad disingenuous in his critique of Bill and Walter.  Nobody takes Charles to rask over his oh-so-cozy relationship with Roland Burris.  He always gets The Big Friendly Hello from Senator Burris, while Mike Flannery, by contrast is rudely addressed as &#8220;Flannery!&#8221;  As in &#8220;Don&#8217;t go there, Flannery!  Don&#8217;t go there, Flannery!&#8221;  I&#8217;m still asking myself why Mike Flannery didn&#8217;t stop Burris cold and say, &#8220;That&#8217;s MISTER Flannery to you, Senator.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where was Chales Thomas that day to speak up for his colleague Mike Flannery?</p>
<p>I guess he picks and chooses what to be outraged about.  Two little old men reading 20 minutes of Friday night news is so much more important.  </p>
<p>Yeah.  Right.</p>
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		<title>By: James Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;re right, James Edwards. One incident from &quot;back in the 90s&quot; absolutely does prove your point about media ethics&quot;

This was just one incident. I pretty big incident. How many more have there been by this reporter? Who knows? This one was very public. If that reporter reads this site, I would love to hear the explanation. If you have nothing to report, why make up something as this reporter did? Did the reporter want to be &quot;first&quot; with the &quot;news?&quot; There are many reasons why the reporter may not have had the facts when it was time to do his live report. But making up, or guessing at, the verdict in this case was not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re right, James Edwards. One incident from &#8220;back in the 90s&#8221; absolutely does prove your point about media ethics&#8221;</p>
<p>This was just one incident. I pretty big incident. How many more have there been by this reporter? Who knows? This one was very public. If that reporter reads this site, I would love to hear the explanation. If you have nothing to report, why make up something as this reporter did? Did the reporter want to be &#8220;first&#8221; with the &#8220;news?&#8221; There are many reasons why the reporter may not have had the facts when it was time to do his live report. But making up, or guessing at, the verdict in this case was not right.</p>
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		<title>By: Not James Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not James Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, James Edwards. One incident from &quot;back in the 90s&quot; absolutely does prove your point about media ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, James Edwards. One incident from &#8220;back in the 90s&#8221; absolutely does prove your point about media ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Apres Ski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apres Ski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was stunned to hear Charles Thomas mispronounce *verboten* so badly. He&#039;s a reporter &amp; you&#039;d think after all these years, he could get that straight!!!
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was stunned to hear Charles Thomas mispronounce *verboten* so badly. He&#8217;s a reporter &amp; you&#8217;d think after all these years, he could get that straight!!!<br />
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		<title>By: EricNester</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricNester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I like &quot;self-replicating&quot;, like in &#039;Soylent Green&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I like &#8220;self-replicating&#8221;, like in &#8216;Soylent Green&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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